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Post by sunfrog on Jul 23, 2010 18:58:49 GMT -5
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Post by PigsnieLite on Jul 23, 2010 19:16:46 GMT -5
Ewwwwwww. the dead squirrul, I mean. Whuts that other animul? The one thats a cocktail mixer. People are sick.
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Post by Frito Freddie on Jul 23, 2010 19:28:51 GMT -5
That cow is really enjoying his sponge!
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Post by sunfrog on Jul 23, 2010 23:16:45 GMT -5
I think it's a squirrel too. Can you imagine putting a squirrel up to your mouth every time you take a drink? Lol. I like it. I'm sure they're stuffed and not real squirrel.... I hope.
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Post by Frito Freddie on Jul 24, 2010 21:49:48 GMT -5
This is the first part of a short documentary made by the Swedish on the Suicide Forest of Japan: Aokigahara Jukai
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Post by Frito Freddie on Jul 24, 2010 21:52:19 GMT -5
This is the second part of the Suicide Forest documentary. Really, it has more to do with why people commit suicide, especially in Japan
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Post by PigsnieLite on Jul 24, 2010 22:03:22 GMT -5
Have you been there? Becuz I have. Didnt seem like an enchanted forest to me.
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Post by sunfrog on Jul 24, 2010 22:51:15 GMT -5
Hmm... sounds creepy.
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Post by Avril on Jul 24, 2010 23:03:49 GMT -5
Interesting video, Freddie. How come those remains were still in the forest? You'd think the police would be out there on regular patrol, at least for body collection. It does look like a huge area, though.
In my new book I talk about the phenomenon of 'contagion suicides' or 'cluster suicides' - where over a matter of weeks, months or occasionally years, people in the same area who may not know each other commit suicide.
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Post by sunfrog on Jul 25, 2010 0:27:49 GMT -5
I think you should write a book about the suicide forest. Two people go in there to kill themselves, meet, fall in love, and save each other. That sounds good doesn't it?
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Post by PigsnieLite on Jul 25, 2010 3:03:42 GMT -5
I bet you theres some Japanese book or movie somewhere that has that in the plot.
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Post by Frito Freddie on Jul 25, 2010 18:37:00 GMT -5
Interesting video, Freddie. How come those remains were still in the forest? You'd think the police would be out there on regular patrol, at least for body collection. The skeletons which remain there date further back, when the Japanese practiced Ubasute (the act of leaving a dependent behind . . . usually the elderly or unweaned babies). They leave them there . . . as a warning to giddy teenagers . . . it doesn't work against middle-aged people who have made up their minds. They're unemployed (some continue to leave their homes everyday . . . pretending to go to work) but when their money runs out and they cannot face their familes . . . they come to Aokigahara Jukai. A lot of them salarymen . . . still wearing their suits. Cab drivers who take them here can tell which ones aren't returning. Some walk off into the forest with their briefcases; other give the cab drivers their wallets and letters to their familes (the wallets find their way back; they don't steal from these men since the Yurei (unquiet spirits) might come after them. Most kill themselves by hanging or they jump from the waterfalls or they just die of exposure in winter. There are also a lot of suicides at train stations. If you find yourself at Tokyo stations, and you see mirrors along the platforms . . . the idea is that the person sees their reflection and thinks twice about what what they are going to do. They jump in front of a train or in the remoter areas, the elderly are known to sleep on the rails . . . waiting for a train to end their misery.
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Post by Frito Freddie on Jul 25, 2010 19:00:17 GMT -5
I think you should write a book about the suicide forest. Two people go in there to kill themselves, meet, fall in love, and save each other. That sounds good doesn't it? There were 2 novels that was set in these woods. One was the 1960 novel, 'Kuroi Jukai' (Sea of Trees), by Seichô Matsumoto, which ends in the suicide of two lovers in Aokigahara; and another book called Pagoda of the Waves-- serialized into a TV series. And of course the controversial 1993 bestseller Jisatsu Manyuaru 'The Complete Suicide Manual', a book by Wataru Tsurumi which describes various ways to do away with yourself and even recommends Aokigahara as “the perfect place to die”.
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Post by PigsnieLite on Jul 25, 2010 19:31:29 GMT -5
Well, that wuz depressing ... especially the idea of leaving the elderly to die. I remember reading a story once on the NY Times years ago about an elderly couple and the wifes disabled old brother laying down on train tracks after they lost their business ... this wuz the story that galvanized me into trying to help the Olds of the World.
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Post by Frito Freddie on Jul 25, 2010 19:46:01 GMT -5
Have you been there? Becuz I have. Didnt seem like an enchanted forest to me. Wart and I have both been there. It's a different kind of forest. Not lush like Hawaii . . . more mossy and stony. The ground itself is dangerous . . . full of holes, the result of volcanic activity from Mt Fuji nearby. And you don't get a sense of "healthy life" in that forest. It's unnaturally quiet and its probably mice or rats but there's some noise in the underbrush. Almost stealthy. There's lot of signs "Please reconsider" and the charmer: "Please consult the police before you decide to die!" and little pamphlets from the forest rangers with crisis hotlines. There's neon yellow tape wrapped around trees which guide the police and the forestry people when they search for bodies. They have a schedule for that. We didn't see any fresh bodies or even see any ghosts. We were there close to noon but it didn't feel like noon. Even though you can see the sky in places . . . it did not look like a noonday sky. LOL--it had that odd lighting which reminded me of the movie TWILIGHT
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