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Post by PigsnieLite on Aug 13, 2012 15:31:14 GMT -5
Yahhh, I heard that NBC cut out the WHO. Hahaha! Maybe they thought the WHO wuz dead like Freddie Mercury. Did they also cut out some fiery flying ballerinas? I agree, most of the musicle acts (and the songs) were ancient. FatBoy Slim? Spice Girls? Madness? Pet Shop Boys? If they were going to use bands past their expired dates, why not get THE POLICE or the not quite expired COLDPLAY? I think whut my dad meant that the Closing ceremonies seemed to imply that Britoon today is about rich celebrities, expensive cars (saw some Rolls Roycies in that stadium) and nostalgic buffoonery. (Hey, I overheard him on the phone wid one of his mates -- who uses the word buffoonery in public? Eeeek!) BTW, my da dislikes Churchill intensely, and he seems to be the only historical figure (besides SHakespeare) recognized by all & sundry.
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Post by Avril on Aug 13, 2012 17:38:16 GMT -5
So, Pigsnie and your papa didn't like it because they think people will misjudge Britain as a result of the opening and closing ceremonies?
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Post by sunfrog on Aug 13, 2012 19:50:30 GMT -5
I didn't see the flaming trapeze people either. I did like those pointy orange bike helmets tho. I thought New York was the place for fashion. I bet that Jessie J girl becomes famous if she isn't already. She kind of stole the show.
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Post by PigsnieLite on Aug 13, 2012 20:07:29 GMT -5
*So, Pigsnie and your papa didn't like it because they think people will misjudge Britain as a result of the opening and closing ceremonies?* asketh Avrilly of Oz.I guess. Whut wuz the word my dad used .. hurmmm ... ah .. pastiche! Also crass. LOL. The only pop star he liked was George Michael becus he was the only one who didnt lip synch, hahaha! Oh, that Rolls Royce in which Jessie J swanned about was A Rolls Royce Phantom which cost £332,000, made by BMW, a major corporate sponsor of the Oohlympics. I didnt know that part until Apollo Pigsnit of the 300 pocket squares, sourly informed me. Chortle. Oh, someone also used the word *Puerile.* Guess Who!
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Post by PigsnieLite on Aug 13, 2012 20:12:30 GMT -5
I didn't see the flaming trapeze people either. I did like those pointy orange bike helmets tho. I thought New York was the place for fashion. I bet that Jessie J girl becomes famous if she isn't already. She kind of stole the show. NBC's just dreadful, isnt it? No class at all. And they cut off our Opening Ceremonies' Tribute to the London bombing attacks! Next time you hold your Ooohlympics in Wisconsin, we'll cut off your Sept. 11 tributes, waaahhhh, how dyou like dem apples?!
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Post by Avril on Aug 14, 2012 6:26:25 GMT -5
Okay, I've seen the Closing Ceremony in its entirety now. It was brilliant in bits and weird in bits. Like my concept of the English, actually.
Love Ray Davies from the Kinks and Nick Mason from Pink Floyd, Annie Lennox and all the dancing and banging on dustbin lids. But. Who was the singer in the green dress. And that guy in the suit singing as the athletes came in? Well, forgettable, anyway. But the rest looked like a fabulous party.
You know I think Pigsnie and your papa, PLite, and you, are suffering from something we know well in Oz. The Cringe Factor. The feeling that the world is looking on disparagingly. Suddenly all you can see are the faults. But I reckon Danny Boyle captured a lot of iconic Britishness - at least as the rest of the world sees it. And Monty Python might be nostalgic buffoonery, but it is also comic brilliance that will never die and will probably never be bettered.
Just my two bob's worth. ;D
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Post by PigsnieLite on Aug 14, 2012 12:11:36 GMT -5
Monty Python wuz Brilliant and I applaud them. They were ahead of their time. They probably influenced me a lot. But theres a reason why not even the Pythons like looking at their work anymore. They have moved on to other things. Eric Idle did not seem funny to me at all onstage; he was just old & kinda lame, which is sad. (I would also haf preferred that he sing The Sperm Song, hahaha!) I dont think my family's Cringe factor is as big as you think. I think it is more of the Massive Disappointment that Danny Boyle did not come up wid something more imaginative than singing pop stars, newspaper silliness & Churchill coming out of a cake. And thats my ten bob.
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Post by PigsnieLite on Aug 14, 2012 22:53:33 GMT -5
If BEIJING wuz the Ne Plus Ultrissimo in Olympic Ceremonies, Athens 2004 came 2nd by a smidge, baby! NOW THIS IS IMAGINATION! And not a stinkin pop star in sight!
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Post by Avril on Aug 15, 2012 1:18:40 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting and so very graceful and beautiful. I'd forgotten how stylised it was. I think all those statues of plastery boys were wearing muscly leggings.
Maybe Britain could have done Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Druids? and Queen Boadicea? Oh wait, she was there. Romans and Northern invaders - gee, how often was Britain invaded - and is still being, by the look of things.
You know, I really like Britain's nuttiness and self-deprecating humour. No need to pretend a dignity that isn't the only thing you've got. You've got polyglots more than that, and it's certainly not uniform. Hard to see how you could have done something similar to Athens.
And, did I imagine it, or was Nana Mouskouri featured in Athens?
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Post by PigsnieLite on Aug 15, 2012 2:11:32 GMT -5
You know Avrilly. whut seriously UPSET me wuz how many celebrities were used. These people are already rich & famous & seriously over-exposed and now they have to show up in the Olympics too! WHY? Danny Boyle was a lousy choice for artistic director and I am disappointed that he chose to make pop stars (and newspapers) the centrepiece of the Closing Ceremonies.
PS. I dont think Britoon is nutty. We haf some nutty people but so do most other countries. Our nuts just get on TV more.
PSPS. I know Boyle could not have done anything close to Athens or Beijing or even Albertville. But would it have hurt to look at other besides besides dancing youngsters & grimacing comedians? And English history did not start wid the Industrial Revolution.
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Post by Avril on Aug 15, 2012 2:31:58 GMT -5
True, English history didn't start with the IR.
Tell me what you would have done; what Pigsnie would have done, and what your papa would have done?
Personally I would have made it all a lot more mystical with Druids and woad; literary with Shakespeare, Marlow, John Donne, Samuel Jonson; Sir Walter Scott and King Arthur; Knights of the Round Table and Mystical Isles of Avalon etc; historical with the kings etc, and then brought in the IR. Maybe.
PPS. I think it takes a certain courage and confidence to be so openly nutty on screen and stage. I know you don't like Mr. Bean, but I love Rowan Atkinson to bits.
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Post by PigsnieLite on Aug 15, 2012 2:52:02 GMT -5
I haf nothing against Rowan Atkinson. I think BLACKADDER wuz brilliant & witty. Mr Bean wuz funny too in his day, but I do get tired of the idiot grin sometimes.
Is John Boorman still alive? He might haf made a brilliant Opening Ceremonies. judging from these scenes from EXCALIBUR. And it would have been inspiring to see the Knights of the Round Table ride into the stadium to O FORTUNA under a shower of cherry blossoms.
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Post by Avril on Aug 15, 2012 3:10:45 GMT -5
That sounds brilliant! ;D
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Post by Avril on Aug 15, 2012 3:15:19 GMT -5
Oh, Wombat just reminded me Danny Boyle didn't do the Closing Ceremony. Do you know who did?
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Post by PigsnieLite on Aug 15, 2012 9:48:57 GMT -5
He didnt? So whuts wid all the Boyle adoration? I haf to check.
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